Comments on: How our language changes: consonental drift https://writegroup.io/how-our-language-changes-consonental-drift/ Better business outcomes with clear, effective writing. Wed, 20 Nov 2024 01:31:08 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.1 By: Nicola Welby https://writegroup.io/how-our-language-changes-consonental-drift/#comment-10609 Wed, 06 Jan 2021 23:17:42 +0000 http://writeclearlyblog.com/?p=4254#comment-10609 Pronunciation is one of my pet peeves too! I’m South African, and my Kiwi husband can’t understand what I’m on about! To him, ‘beer’ and ‘bear’ are pronounced the same. As are ‘ear’ and ‘air’; and ‘here’, ‘hear’ and ‘hair’. I’m glad to hear I’m not the only one that’s pulling out my hair over this!
Great post, Inez!

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By: Inez Romanos https://writegroup.io/how-our-language-changes-consonental-drift/#comment-385 Wed, 03 Aug 2016 05:24:19 +0000 http://writeclearlyblog.com/?p=4254#comment-385 In reply to Paul Veltman.

I’ve had fun thinking about list in your last paragraph.

I think I’ve heard shplit, shpring, shtreet, shcream, and shtudent. I’ve never heard anyone say smew or sphragistics. Now excuse me while I check my online Oxford Dictionary…

…and thank you an intereshting discussion!

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By: Inez Romanos https://writegroup.io/how-our-language-changes-consonental-drift/#comment-384 Wed, 03 Aug 2016 05:18:37 +0000 http://writeclearlyblog.com/?p=4254#comment-384 In reply to Jane.

I think that one’s been around for a long time. I associate it with the ‘received pronunciation’ (posh voices) used on the BBC and in other media way back in the 30’s and 40’s. Does that ring a bell? And is Kathryn harking back to an earlier time?

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By: Corinna Lines https://writegroup.io/how-our-language-changes-consonental-drift/#comment-383 Wed, 03 Aug 2016 05:05:01 +0000 http://writeclearlyblog.com/?p=4254#comment-383 John Key is an expert! Especially saying “Shtraya” for our neighbour.

After the Christchurch earthquakes, when people were offering accommodation and facilities for displaced people, all I could hear was “People can come and use ayur sharz” (“our showers”).

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By: Paul Veltman https://writegroup.io/how-our-language-changes-consonental-drift/#comment-382 Wed, 03 Aug 2016 03:27:30 +0000 http://writeclearlyblog.com/?p=4254#comment-382 It is most likely the ‘r’ sound in the ‘str’ combination causing this sound change in words like history, construction, and infrastructure, stripe, etc.

The process is called palatalization by some, and affrication by others, depending on whether they are looking at the ‘place of articulation’, or the ‘manner of articulation’.

Either way, it causes the ‘s’ to be pronounced as ‘sh’ in this context, much as English speakers have learnt to pronounce ‘Sri Lanka’.

The same process affects the ‘t’ in words like tree – compare “The shree in the Garden of Eden was an apple shree”, with markedly unnatural “The tree in the garden of Eden was an apple tree.”

The sentence ‘I dreamed about an apple tree in Sri Lanka’ shows how similar ‘tree’ and ‘Sri’ are, and shows that ‘dream’ is also affected (‘jreem’).

But, ‘s’ is an unusual letter in that it’s the only consonant that can appear before ‘tr’ at the start of a syllable, and so it is especially sensitive to its environment, and given that ‘tr’ and ‘dr’ are so variable, it’s no surprise to find such an interesting piece of language variation.

It would be interesting to know how people pronounce words such as split, sclera, spring, street, scream, square, smew, spew, student, skewer, and more obscure, but still recognizable ones such as sphragistics.

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By: colleentrolove https://writegroup.io/how-our-language-changes-consonental-drift/#comment-381 Tue, 02 Aug 2016 23:34:06 +0000 http://writeclearlyblog.com/?p=4254#comment-381 I have been noticing lots of young people (preschoolers and primary schoolers) saying the ‘ur’ vowel (‘nurse’) as ‘ar’. To me, their ‘nurse’ sounds like ‘narse’. ‘It doesn’t warrk (work) when I tarrn (turn) the handle.’

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By: Jane https://writegroup.io/how-our-language-changes-consonental-drift/#comment-380 Tue, 02 Aug 2016 22:47:23 +0000 http://writeclearlyblog.com/?p=4254#comment-380 I have also noticed Kathryn Ryan on RNZ National talking about a political ‘isss-you’ rather than ‘ish-you’. Is this a foretaste of what is to come?

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