Commons:Deletion requests/File:Tzedakah (charity) box, Charleston, 1820, silver, National Museum of American Jewish History.JPG

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File:Tzedakah_(charity)_box,_Charleston,_1820,_silver,_National_Museum_of_American_Jewish_History.JPG

This artifact is on loan to the National Museum of American Jewish History and is on loan from a very private collection. The Museum does not have rights to publish photographs of this object, and neither does the person who posted it. Furthermore, photographs are not to be used in the gallery. Please take down this photograph as soon as possible. Thank you. 4.59.138.227 16:19, 28 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The owner of a work of art is not the owner of the copyright on that work of art. In any event, the original copyright has expired. Wmpearl (talk) 15:40, 29 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wmpearl --

It's not a matter of copyright. We borrowed it from a donor who did not give us permission to publish the image, and we did not give you permission, either. I assume you bought a ticket to the Museum, which states quite explicitly, "No photography/recording."

Putting all that aside, I just want to politely ask you to take it down.

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.59.138.227 (talk • contribs) 20:25, 29 December 2011‎ (UTC)[reply]

Kept:

1. The image is of an 1820 work, so there is no question of this being an infringement of an underlying copyright.

2. Commons policy on photography in museums is very clear, see Commons:Image_casebook#Museum_and_interior_photography. The museum may or may not have a cause of action against the photographer for violating the terms of admission, but it has no standing to force us to take the image down.

3. Aside from that, I note that all we have here asserting these facts are two posts (one not signed) from an IP user in Baltimore. The museum is in Philadelphia.

Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 18:12, 5 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]