Commons:Deletion requests/File:Schwacher Bogen (Weak Arc) by Wassily Kandinsky, 1929.jpg

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File:Schwacher Bogen (Weak Arc) by Wassily Kandinsky, 1929.jpg

This work was published before 2003 (at bare minimum, it was published by 1994 when Vivian Barnett's book Kandinsky Watercolours was published, as mentioned here). This painting was made in Germany, and Germany and other EU nations have copyrights of life+70 years. That means this work was still copyrighted by the URAA date of 1 January 1996, making it copyrighted within the US. Freedom4U (talk) 03:44, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep This file is in the public domain. 185.172.241.184 09:20, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- For the record, I agree that this was published before 2003. The only question is, should we consider 1929 or 1994 as first publication? If 1929, this will become PD in the U.S. on January 1, 2025. If 1994, we have to wait until 2048 per COM:Hirtle. Abzeronow (talk) 19:39, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've generally argued that we should assume they were published shortly after they were made. In this case, the Sotheby's page says it was exhibited "Halle, Roter Turm, Hallischer Kunstverein & Städtisches Museum, Alte Garnisonskirche and Roter Turm, 1929, n.n", which may or may not have been publication under US law; the first line under provenance is "Anatole Jakovski, Paris (acquired in February 1935)", which almost certainly was publication under US law. In no way is 1994 the first publication.--Prosfilaes (talk) 21:11, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If Sotheby's exhibited it then it almost surely was published. I believe there is too little doubt to prevent us from restoring this file on January 1, 2025. Bastique ^{☎ let's talk!} 00:48, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As a side note, Germany and other EU nations have copyrights of life+70 years; that doesn't mean they had copyrights on life+70 years on January 1st, 1996. Germany certainly did. The UK extended theirs at the last moment. Czechia and Estonia and several other nations seem to have still been life+50 at that time.--Prosfilaes (talk) 21:11, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: no matter when we restore it, we can delete it now. --Bastique ^{☎ let's talk!} 00:51, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Honestly I feel like we wasted lot of precious admin time with having a one-month long deletion. Léna (talk) 10:38, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]